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to the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the moffett cancer center who was in the military community. she was on the social roster, she was on the socom that's special operations command social roster. she jumped with the parajumpers in a tan done jump. she attended the admiral's parties and affairs and so on. that's who she is in that context. >> rose: so she went to the cyber whatever the name was and then they began to look at her e-mails and who she received e-mails from and from that they found e-mails having to do with general john allen. >> right one of the ways you do a case, all right let's see who is sending the har
to the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the...
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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morell, acting director of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. publicly
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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this is not the fbi operational side but the political side, the real question will be what did the fbi tell the attorney general and what was justice's call on what to do with that information. and that question hasn't really surfaced yet but when it does it will certainly royal. >> sharyl atkinson reported on cbs this morning there are members of congress now demanding a joint committee to investigate this. if there are enough members of on congress hungry to do that that will likely hospital which will mean a full on colonoscopy on this store. there are so many details to be learned. >> rose: david, in cases like this when we do these looking back journalists do and looking who said what when, there are always questions that come up like this. who should have when they first heard this, said the president has to know this? >> well, i think john raised this issue. as it comes up, the chain of command and the fbi, the fbi embarked into the inquiry of the cia director. if i were the director, i would properly go to the person i work for and that's the attorney general holder and give hi
this is not the fbi operational side but the political side, the real question will be what did the fbi tell the attorney general and what was justice's call on what to do with that information. and that question hasn't really surfaced yet but when it does it will certainly royal. >> sharyl atkinson reported on cbs this morning there are members of congress now demanding a joint committee to investigate this. if there are enough members of on congress hungry to do that that will likely...
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people feel like the cia and the fbi hate each other. they don't. there's elements within both organizations that hate each other. 10%, 20% navy. by and large they work well together. they're after the same thing. but you won't get the occasional really aggressive person who wants to make a name for themselves in washington, which we've never seen that before, and they just -- they go after it. >> vince flynn, i'm telling you "the last man" his latest. great stuff. >> thanks for having me on the show. >>> coming up, film director ol 0 i ever stone. also, president obama gives republicans a preview what they're up against as they prepare an entire budget and negotiations begin thursday, friday, saturday, who knows? at optionsxpress we're all about options trading. we create easy to use, powerful trading tools for all. look at these streaming charts! they're totally customizable and they let you visualize what might happen next. that's genius! strategies, chains, positions. we put 'em all on one screen! could we make placing a trade any easier? mmmm..
people feel like the cia and the fbi hate each other. they don't. there's elements within both organizations that hate each other. 10%, 20% navy. by and large they work well together. they're after the same thing. but you won't get the occasional really aggressive person who wants to make a name for themselves in washington, which we've never seen that before, and they just -- they go after it. >> vince flynn, i'm telling you "the last man" his latest. great stuff. >>...
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months before the fbi was brought on to the case. the white house is backing general allen, officials say his nomination to nato could be derailed, if he can't get past the controversy of being swept up in this scandal. brian? >> andrea mitchell starting us off from washington tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> jill kelley's name has come up in connection with two of this nation's top commanders. more on her story tonight from nbc's kristen welker. >> mrs. kelley, how are you doing? >> reporter: jill kelley was well known in social circles around tampa, long before she became fodder for the tabloids of new york. she and her husband threw lavish parties at their ten-bedroom home that sold for $1.5 million in 2004. black tie, top notch catering, a couple about town. >> jill is always smiling, vivacious. >> reporter: aaron publishes tampa bay magazine that features fancy parties and ads for high end merchandise. the kelley's frequented its pages. >> there was always a bevy of people surrounding them. it seemed like no matter where they went,
months before the fbi was brought on to the case. the white house is backing general allen, officials say his nomination to nato could be derailed, if he can't get past the controversy of being swept up in this scandal. brian? >> andrea mitchell starting us off from washington tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> jill kelley's name has come up in connection with two of this nation's top commanders. more on her story tonight from nbc's kristen welker. >> mrs. kelley, how are you...
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and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading those forces. he has my continued conference to lead those forces and continue to fight. but his nomination has been put on old because it's a prude measure until we determine what the facts are. and we will. >> right, john, obviously it's going to take a while because this is a very tangled situation. but they certainly are looking at exactly what is described as flirtatious e-mails that still remain to be seen what the nature of this was. >> jill, you talk about jill kelley at the center of this whole controversy and scandal. we have new details about her relationship
and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading...
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when the fbi, yes, worked on crime, but under hoover the fbi worked on politics, too. the agency's efforts in the latter undermined everything the nation needed from the fbi on the former. that's why congress ordered reforms for the fbi after watergate. investigating crime while also secretly playing politics is a combination with a bad outcome. that's one of the things we learned from the scandal of the nixon administration and its downfall, but also from decades watching j. edgar hoover operate. last week we learned general david petraeus had an affair. the fbi discovered that affair over the summer while it was looking into something else. those revelations led to protest from members of congress that they had not been told sooner than last week, along with everyone else. they wanted to be notified about this. ranking democrat on the intelligence committee dianne feinstein says the fbi should have told congress, bipartisan, republican, homeland security committee calms alerting congress in an instance like this the fbi's obligation. lawmakers are sure to demand answ
when the fbi, yes, worked on crime, but under hoover the fbi worked on politics, too. the agency's efforts in the latter undermined everything the nation needed from the fbi on the former. that's why congress ordered reforms for the fbi after watergate. investigating crime while also secretly playing politics is a combination with a bad outcome. that's one of the things we learned from the scandal of the nixon administration and its downfall, but also from decades watching j. edgar hoover...
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was an fbi agent. i worked as a federal prosecutor the report directly to the department ofjustice. they work for the department justice. the idea you didot know about it, i don't understand that. lou: is it even imaginable that the head of the fbi and te attorney general would not have some considerable discussion about surveillance of the hed of the country's foremost spy agency? we will come right back with the case for an answer that question. at least the lou: fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff. you think we will be able to get a solution, these things, the president will stand up and leave in the two partiesill come together, embrace higher taxes and less spending? >> yes, i do. i really beliive in this country. labeling the country the brightest spot in the world two weeks ago. something has to be done, this is his moment to leave. >> i hope you are right. lou: do you agree or just hoping? >> i am in the hoping cegory. i have not seen any indication in that, any indication of embracing. neil: saying rep
was an fbi agent. i worked as a federal prosecutor the report directly to the department ofjustice. they work for the department justice. the idea you didot know about it, i don't understand that. lou: is it even imaginable that the head of the fbi and te attorney general would not have some considerable discussion about surveillance of the hed of the country's foremost spy agency? we will come right back with the case for an answer that question. at least the lou: fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff....
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the fbi. as i understand it they have protocols in place for when the notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. the fbi is the place to go in terms of explanation the protocols they follow. i would refer, that said earlier, to policies in place at the fbi for how they deal with notifications investigations. lou: as you saw and heard, a frustrating day for the white house press corps. the president spokesman however did not shy away from a question on this petraeus would testify in front of congress on benghazi. made it clear the administration is firmly supportive of petraeus' successor. he will be facing questions that are still lingering over if the cia refused requests for help on the ground on september 11 and why three days after that attack then director petraeus but in the attack in the flash mob incited by childish, amateurish, less than 14 minutes long youtube video. >> is up to congress to make decisions of who is called to testify. but the president is confide
the fbi. as i understand it they have protocols in place for when the notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. the fbi is the place to go in terms of explanation the protocols they follow. i would refer, that said earlier, to policies in place at the fbi for how they deal with notifications investigations. lou: as you saw and heard, a frustrating day for the white house press corps. the president spokesman however did not shy away from a question on this petraeus would...
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not for the fbi. so the fbi still has some explaining to do in my mind. >> eliot: why the distinction if there is a legitimate reason or maybe the facts are different between the way general petraeus has offered his resignation and the president expressing support for general allen. is there a reason for that distinction that you can discern? >> absolutely. first off general allen's behavior flirting -- many things are against the military code of justice but flirting isn't. that being said, i can absolutely understand the secretary's actions where general allen is concerned at this point. the real question -- what's happening is general allen was up, as you said, to take over as nato's supreme allied commander. that's a senate-confirmed position. any time that there is an investigation, regardless of whether it has any merit or not that investigation is always concluded before you put somebody in front of the senate committee for them to go ahead and confirm or not confirm the person. so in this case
not for the fbi. so the fbi still has some explaining to do in my mind. >> eliot: why the distinction if there is a legitimate reason or maybe the facts are different between the way general petraeus has offered his resignation and the president expressing support for general allen. is there a reason for that distinction that you can discern? >> absolutely. first off general allen's behavior flirting -- many things are against the military code of justice but flirting isn't. that...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national intelligence director james clapper told him to do so. joining me now, spencer ackerman, senior writer for "wired" who writes for their national security blog, the danger room, and nbc's richard wolffe. richard, i don't know, i don't know much about waging war. i do know a little bit about living life. and these generals are writing absolutely crazy letters which i don't have time to read to a judge in a custody battle. >> right. >> a woman who has lost custody of her son, and in this country it is not easy for women to lose custody of children in these situati
remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national...
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the fbi said some were flirtatious, but the general strongly denies any misconduct, and the fbi found no wrongdoing. still, jay johnson, the pentagon's general counsel, saw a number of the e-mails before advising secretary panetta to refer the matter to the department's inspector general for further investigation. >> nobody should jump to conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job in isap in leading the forces, and he certainly has my continued confidence in leading our forces and continue the fight. >> reporter: officials say the fbi discovered the communications while investigating kelley's e-mails after she complained about anonymous threats that turned out to be from paula broadwell. the president was first told on friday, the day he accepted petraeus' resignation, that there could be a problem with allen's nomination to nato. >> the president has put on hold general allen's nomination as supreme allied commander of europe pending the investigation of general allen's conduct by the department of defense, ig. >> jill kelley had a brief turn in the reality tv spotligh
the fbi said some were flirtatious, but the general strongly denies any misconduct, and the fbi found no wrongdoing. still, jay johnson, the pentagon's general counsel, saw a number of the e-mails before advising secretary panetta to refer the matter to the department's inspector general for further investigation. >> nobody should jump to conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job in isap in leading the forces, and he certainly has my continued confidence in leading our...
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between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are pages of documents. "it - really makes yoo wonderrhow he it, and the motivation to do o - that from afar." the news about allen--which the national security council spooesman says president obama learned about the same day petraeus resigned-- has put allen's nominntion to be nato's supreme allied commander on hold..allen denies any wrongdoing and &premains on duty in afghanistan. "the presidentt has great confidence ii the military, great coofidence in the commander, and will continue to have that confidence." a defenss official tells cnn there's a defense department ty" the investigation into allennis connected to
between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are...
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the fbi traced those e-mails back to paula broadwell's computer where they discovered the evidence of broadwell's affair with david petraeus. but it doesn't stop there. abc news has learned that general allen also received an anonymous e-mail traced to paula broadwell, painting jill kelley as a seductress. a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and general allen, 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communications in all. but a source familiar with the e-mails say they contain no evidence of a sexual relationship, something allen supporting what allen said. instead they're described as friendly, perhaps flirtatious but routine mostly about meetings with ambassadors and dinner parties. in one note kelley tells the general she saw him on tv. he responds, "thanks, dear, you're a sweetheart." many e-mails were from kelley to general allen's wife. the two couples were good friends. >> until someone proves otherwise, i believe that he did nothing inappropriate. >> reporter: and today the white house made clear the president still has faith in general allen, bu
the fbi traced those e-mails back to paula broadwell's computer where they discovered the evidence of broadwell's affair with david petraeus. but it doesn't stop there. abc news has learned that general allen also received an anonymous e-mail traced to paula broadwell, painting jill kelley as a seductress. a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and general allen, 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communications in all. but a source familiar with the e-mails say...
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and upon receiving broadwell's e-mails, kelley contacted the fbi which began investigating. now, jill kelley also has hired crisis communications expert judy smith. she has worked with monica lewinsky with kobe bryant and with former senator larry craig. and that all has a lot of folks scratching their heads. why would a woman who was the target of a nasty e-mail or two need a reputation fixer? well it turns out that while investigating petraeus, the fbi uncovered 20,000 to 30,000 potentially inappropriate pages of documents mostly e-mails that kelley exchanged with general john allen. and who is general john allen? he is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan and he is the man who's nominated to be the supreme leader of nato. as you can imagine that, nomination was put on hold in light of all of these allegations. for the record, general allen denies any inappropriate relationship with kelley and these e-mails are described as flirtatious. so reaction to this unfolding and unbelievable drama is coming in from all sides a senior official close to general allen said of jill ke
and upon receiving broadwell's e-mails, kelley contacted the fbi which began investigating. now, jill kelley also has hired crisis communications expert judy smith. she has worked with monica lewinsky with kobe bryant and with former senator larry craig. and that all has a lot of folks scratching their heads. why would a woman who was the target of a nasty e-mail or two need a reputation fixer? well it turns out that while investigating petraeus, the fbi uncovered 20,000 to 30,000 potentially...
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an fbi agent to whom kelly turns to for help. he was taken off the case because supervisors felt he was infatuated with kelly. they knew each other before the investigation began. he sent her shirtless photos of himself. there you have it for now.. >> what a tangled web that goes on. >> three oakland police officers that delivered a baby were reunited today with the infant and parents. he is named nolan. officers talking to a clerk at the station. the frantic farther told them his wife was in labor. they couldn't make it to the hospital. one cop pud been a thursday. >> great, wonderful experience. and being a police officer is what i wanted to do. >> the officer that's delivered him received first aid training and n.delivering a baby. knollan is living proof it paid off what. a straight story. >> sandhya patel is here with weather. >> nolan came in with the streak as cross the sky. we fast forwarded this video. there is crisscrossing patterns making caused by trailer kond yensation. this is due to more humidity in the sky. patter
an fbi agent to whom kelly turns to for help. he was taken off the case because supervisors felt he was infatuated with kelly. they knew each other before the investigation began. he sent her shirtless photos of himself. there you have it for now.. >> what a tangled web that goes on. >> three oakland police officers that delivered a baby were reunited today with the infant and parents. he is named nolan. officers talking to a clerk at the station. the frantic farther told them his...
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when asked if the fbi should have revealed the investigation to him in the country prior to the election, the president withheld judgement. >> it's possible had we been told, you would be sitting here asking me a question why were you interfering in a criminal investigation. >> reporter: on the fiscal cliff the country faces at the end of the year, the president insisted he would not extend cuts for well -- for the wealthy and demanded that middle class tax cuts get extended now. >> i am confident folks in both parties can make that happen. what i'm not going to do is to extend bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% we can't afford and, according to economists, we'll have the least positive impact on our economy. >> reporter: the president grew emotional when asked about republicans who have blasted u.n. ambassador susan rice for her comments on the benghazi attack, adding it would not affect her possible nomination as secretary of state. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was making a presentation based on intelligence show received and to b
when asked if the fbi should have revealed the investigation to him in the country prior to the election, the president withheld judgement. >> it's possible had we been told, you would be sitting here asking me a question why were you interfering in a criminal investigation. >> reporter: on the fiscal cliff the country faces at the end of the year, the president insisted he would not extend cuts for well -- for the wealthy and demanded that middle class tax cuts get extended now....
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they're saying that perhaps the fbi is going to do some more investigating. or the net to net in the first place? these questions are going to becoming more prevalent >> some people were going to say that the fbi was not one to win anyway. there was clearly a security problem or if they did not choose a path. >> that half naked photograph? >> what is that about? and i do not know, and other side show. but there is a another big problem with two different senior members of the armed intelligence community. that could have been compromising or perhaps information. with a select committee. >> dianne feinstein had a closed meeting and political allies, could this impact for a policy? >> absolutely. with one person of the afghanistan member, petraeus and also alan. is also going to be moving to nato. to help his people stay in the coalition and these rumored people... with really what was stable for the foreign policy component for the reelection now we could be completely undermined. >> president obama could not be too thrilled because he found out about that on
they're saying that perhaps the fbi is going to do some more investigating. or the net to net in the first place? these questions are going to becoming more prevalent >> some people were going to say that the fbi was not one to win anyway. there was clearly a security problem or if they did not choose a path. >> that half naked photograph? >> what is that about? and i do not know, and other side show. but there is a another big problem with two different senior members of the...